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SUMMARY OF PULLMAN CAR TYPES

Part 3: Heavyweight Cars

(This is an overall list including Pullman owned Gothic and Betterment cars)

abbreviations:

s= section - c= compartment - sb= single bedroom - db= double bedroom - d= drawingroom - du= duplex - rmt= roomette Mbr= master bedroom - buf= buffet - cafe= cafe food service - T= tavern - lng= lounge - p= parlor - ch= chair - co= coach brbr= barber shop rec= recreation area - obs= open platform observation car - sun= enclosed sunroom observation car

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Plan    type              yr blt  quan  carbody      notes

2410    12-1              1910-13  910  Gothic       one of the original types
2410-A  12-1              1913-14  390  Gothic
2410-B  12-1              1914-15  280  Heavyweight
2410-C  12-1              1915-17   21  Heavyweight
2410-D  12-1              1915     114  Heavyweight
2410-E  12-1              1915-16  186  Heavyweight
2410-F  12-1              1916-21  932  Heavyweight
2410-G  12-1              1921       4  Heavyweight  C of Ga
2410-H  12-1              1922-23  124  Heavyweight

2411    12-1c-1d          1910-13   97  Gothic       one of the original types
2411-A  12-1c-1d          1913-14   40  Gothic    
2411-C  12-1c-1d          1917-22   75  Heavyweight

2412    16 sect           1910-11   50  Gothic       one of the original types
2412-A  16 sect           1912      30  Gothic  
2412-B  16 sect           1913      74  Gothic
2412-C  16 sect           1914-15   50  Heavyweight
2412-D  16 sect           1915       6  Heavyweight  NP ry
2412-E  16 sect           1916      10  Heavyweight  NYC, NH
2412-F  16 sect           1916-17  145  Heavyweight
2412-H  10s-4 pvt s       1931-32   14  Heavyweight  rebuilt
2412-J  10s-4 pvt s       1931       2  Heavyweight  rebuilt
2412-L  10s-4 du sb       1931       2  Heavyweight  rebuilt
2412-X  16 sect           1918       5  Heavyweight  NYC

2413    6c-lng-obs        1910-11   24  Gothic       NYC, PRR   original types
2413-A  5c-lng-obs        1926      18  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2413s

2414-A  lng-buf-bag       1910      20  Gothic       one of the original types
2414-D  lng-buf-RPO       1916       ?  Gothic ?     rebuilt 2414s

2415    lng-buf-bag       1910-13   22  Gothic       one of the original types
2415-B  lng-buf-bag       1936       1  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2415

2416    26p-1d            1910-13  137  Gothic       one of the original types
2416-A  26p-1d            1913-14   63  Gothic
2416-B  26p-1d            1914       ?     ?         some of last lot of 2416-As
2416-C  26p-1d            1916-17   58  Heavyweight
2416-D  26p-1d            1922-23   60  Heavyweight
2416-G  24p-buf-lng       1937       1  Heavyweight  C&EI "Dixieland" reblt 

2417    24p-1d            1910-13   30  Gothic       one of the original types
2417-A  24p-1d            1913-14   35  Gothic
2417-B  24p-1d            1914      20  Gothic       B&M, NYC
2417-C  24p-1d            1916      10  Heavyweight  PRR, NH
2417-D  24p-1d            1917      10  Heavyweight
2417-F  16p-cafe-1d       1932      12  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2417-As

2418    28p-1d            1910      24  Gothic       one of the original types

2419    32p               1911       6  Gothic       one of the original types

2420    32p-obs           1910-12    4  Gothic       one of the original types
2420-H  32p-obs           1926       1  Heavyweight? rebuilt 2420

2421    28p-obs           1910-14    6  Gothic       one of the original types

2492    private car       1911-14    4  Gothic    
2492-A  private car       1936?      4? Gothic?      rebuilt 2492 w/ air cond

2502    private car       1911       1  Gothic
2502-A  private car       1914       3  Gothic
2502-B  private car       1916       3  Heavyweight
2502-C  private car       1917       3  Heavyweight

2503    private car       1911       2  Gothic       1 on Cardinals Train

2505    10 cpts           1910-11   12  Gothic       NYC, PRR
2505-A  10 cpts           1913-14    7  Gothic?
2505-C  5c-buf-lng        1925       3  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2505s

2521    10s-lng-obs       1910-14   49  Gothic       some 4 poster
2521-A  10s-lng-obs       1914      20  Heavyweight  some 4 poster
2521-B  10s-lng-obs       1915      20  Heavyweight
2521-C  10s-lng-obs       1923      45  Heavyweight

2522    7c-2d             1910-12   30  Gothic       ATSF, CB&Q
2522-A  7c-2d             1913      20  Gothic       many in Fla service
2522-B  7c-2d             1917-23   15? Heavyweight  production changed from B to C  
2522-C  7c-2d             1923      15? Heavyweight  during lot 4690 (10 cars)

2540    8c-lng-obs        1911       9  Gothic       NYC
2540-E  6c-buf-lng        1938       8  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2540s

2547    6s-5c             1911       3  Gothic       C&O
2547-A  6s-5c             1916       2  Heavyweight  C&O
2547-C  6s-1d-2c-2db      1933       4  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2547s, 2547-A

2583    7 dwgrm           1911       2  Gothic       ATSF Deluxe
2583-A  7 dwgrm           1913       2  Gothic       ATSF
2583-B  7 dwgrm           1917-20   10  Heavyweight

2584    10s-2d            1911-13   50  Gothic

2585    10s-1d-2c         1911-13   76  Gothic
2585-A  10s-1d-2c         1913      60  Gothic
2585-B  10s-1d-2c         1915      10  Heavyweight
2585-C  10s-1d-2c         1915      20  Heavyweight
2585-D  10s-1d-2c         1916-22  168  Heavyweight

2602    lng-buf-bag       1912      16  Gothic

2634    14s-1c            1912       2  Gothic       CGW

2635    7c-lng-obs        1912       2  Gothic       C&NW

2668    30p-1d            1912       7  Gothic       Lehigh Valley

2669    25p-1d-obs        1912       5  Gothic       Lackawanna, NYC

2671    32p-1d            1912       4  Gothic       NH

2672    24p-1d-buf        1912       3  Gothic       NH

2673    14s-1d            1912       5  Gothic       NH

2690    12p-1d-lng-buf    1912       2  Gothic       NH

2691    36p               1913       8  Gothic       NH

2692    24p-bag           1913       2  Gothic       NH

2703    4c-2d-lng-obs     1913      10  Gothic       Overland Ltd
2703-A  3c-2d-lng-obs     1925       9  Heavyweight  rebuilt 2703s

2762    14s-1d            1913       5  Gothic       NH, C&NW

2764    34p               1913       8  Gothic       NH

2765    20p-bag           1913       2  Gothic       NH

2766    18p-1d-buf-lng-obs 1913      2  Gothic       NH 4 poster
2766-A  18p-1d-lng-obs     ?         2  Gothic       NH 4 poster, reblt 2766

2819-A  24p-1d-obs        1914       4  Gothic       B&O 4 poster  

2901    18p-buf-lng-obs   1916       2  Heavyweight  B&O

2915    24p-bag           1916       2  Heavyweight  NH

2916    36p               1916      14  Heavyweight  NH   

2917    32p-1d            1916       6  Heavyweight  NH
2917-C  20p-1d-lng        1939       6  Heavyweight  NH rebuilt 2917s

2918    20p-lng-obs       1916       4  Heavyweight  NH
2918-K  18p-lng-buf-sun   1937       2  Heavyweight  

2919    lng-buf-bag       1916       6  Heavyweight  NH

2950    4c-2d-lng-obs     1916       4  Heavyweight  "Panama Ltd"

2951    lng-buf-bag       1917      10  Heavyweight  NYC
2951-A  lng-buf-bag       1922       9  Heavyweight  PRR, NYC
2951-B  lng-buf-bag       1924      10  Heavyweight  NYC

3410    12-1              1923-24  616  Heavyweight  
3410-A  12-1              1925-26  301  Heavyweight
3410-B  12-1              1926-29   64  Heavyweight
Certain cars of this series rebuilt into Betterments

3411    10s-3db           1930      50  Heavyweight  C&NW, PRR
3411-A  10s-3db           1930    cars  Heavyweight
3411-B  10s-3db           1930   total  Heavyweight  to Betterments 1939

3415    lng-buf-bag       1924       2  Heavyweight
3415-A  lng-buf-bag       1924      13  Heavyweight
3415-E  lng-buf-bag       1935?     10? Betterment   rebuilt 3415-As

3416    28p-1d            1923-25  115  Heavyweight
3416-A  28p-1d            1926-30   57  Heavyweight
3416-C  28p-1d            1930?      ?  Heavyweight  redecorated 3416s
3416-D  28p-1d            1937       2? Heavyweight  reblt C&EI "Dixieland"

3418    30p-1d            1924-25    9  Heavyweight
3418-A  30p-1d            1926       4  Heavyweight

3419    34p               1924-25   10  Heavyweight  NYC (6) L&N (2) PRR (2)
3419-A  34p               1926       2  Heavyweight  Michigan Central (2)

3420    26p-1d            1924       2  Heavyweight  "Congressional"

3521    10 sect-lng-obs   1923-29   53  Heavyweight
3521-A  10 sect-lng-obs   1925-26   35  Heavyweight
3521-B  10 sect-sun       1927       5  Heavyweight
3521-C  10 sect-sun       1929      18  Heavyweight  "General" series
3521-F  10 sect-sun       ????      ??  Heavyweight  reblt for PRR
3521-I  10 sect-sun       ????      ??  Heavyweight  reblt 3521s
3521-J  10 sect-sun       ????      ??  Heavyweight  reblt 3521s
3521-L  10 sect-sun       ????      ??  Heavyweight  reblt 3521s

3523    6c-3d             1923-26   70  Heavyweight
3523-A  6c-3d             1925-26   63  Heavyweight
3523-B  6c-3d             1926      20  Heavyweight  
3523-C  6c-3d             1927-29   50  Heavyweight  different arrangement

3916    38p               1929?      ?  Heavyweight
3916-A  38p               1929       5? Heavyweight  NH
3916-B  38p               1929       5? Heavyweight  NH
3916-C  38p               1929       7  Heavyweight  Northern Pacific

3917    32p-1d            1924-27   18  Heavyweight  NH, LV
3917-A  32p-1d            1929       6  Heavyweight  NH

3950    4c-2d-lng-obs     1924      10  Heavyweight  RI (Golden State)
3950-A  4c-2d-lng-obs     1923-24   18  Heavyweight
3950-F  3c-2d-lng-obs     1924       9  Heavyweight  rebuilt 3950-As

3951    lng-buf-bag       1925      47  Heavyweight
3951-B  lng-buf-bag       1930?      ?  Heavyweight  rebuilt 3951s
3951-C  lng-buf-bag       1926      25  Heavyweight
3951-G  lng-buf-bag       1930       1  Heavyweight  rebuilt 3951-C
3951-O  lng-buf-bag       1940?      4  Betterment   B&O PRR rebuilt 3951s

3952    std diner         1924-25   19  Heavyweight  Pullman owned
        (this is the standard dining car Pullman sells to the railroads)
        (certain railroad owned dining cars rebuilt into Betterments)

3953    3c-1d-buf-lng-obs 1924-25    9  Heavyweight  GN

3956    20p-1d-obs        1924       3  Heavyweight  L&N

3957    25p-1d-lng-obs    1924-26    6  Heavyweight
3957-A  25p-1d-lng-obs    1926       2  Heavyweight  Lackawanna

3958    14 sect           1925-26   96  Heavyweight  tourist sleeper
3958-A  14 sect           1927-30  112  Heavyweight  tourist sleeper 
3958-B  14 sect           1938       5  Betterment   B&O 
3958-D  14 sect           1956       1? Betterment   B&O

3959    3c-2d-lng-obs     1926      15  Heavyweight
3959-A  3c-2d-lng-obs     1924-27   17  Heavyweight
3959-B  3c-2d-lng-obs     1929      15  Heavyweight
3959-D  3c-2d-lng-obs     1925      29  Heavyweight

3960    4c-lng-obs        1925      15  Heavyweight  PRR

3961    16p-lng-buf-obs   1925       3  Heavyweight
3961-A  16p-lng-buf-obs   1926       2  Heavyweight  B & A
3961-B  16p-lng-buf-obs   1926       2  Heavyweight  Mich Cent
3961-E  16p-lng-buf-obs   1929       2  Heavyweight  reblt 3961s, sm lng
3961-G  16p-lng-obs       1937-38    3  Heavyweight  rebuilt 3961-As
3961-J  16p-1d-lng-buf-obs 1942      2  Heavyweight  rebuilt 3961-Es 

3962    2c-4d-Mbr         1926       2  Heavyweight  Raymond & Chandler  
3962-B  3c-4d-brbr        1937       1  Betterment   reblt 3962, "49er"
3962-C  4c-4d             1942       1  Betterment   reblt 3962-B, "49er"

3964    buf-lng-sun       1926       4  Heavyweight  CB&Q then PRR

3966    lng-rec-gym       1926       3  Heavyweight  Raymond & Chandler, NC&StL

3967    buf-lng           1926       5  Heavyweight  Fla trade

3968    6s-cafe-lng       1926-32    8  Heavyweight  reblt Gothic cars
3968-B  6s-cafe-lng       1926       1  Heavyweight  reblt Gothic car
3968-D  6s-cafe-lng       1935       1  Heavyweight  reblt Gothic car

3969    dining car        1928       1  Heavyweight  (Angels Camp)
3969-A                    1937       1  Betterment   reblt 3969, "49er"

3970    Kitchen car       1928       1  Heavyweight  (Donner Lake)
                          1937       1  Betterment   reblt 3970, "49er"

3972    Private car       1927       3  Heavyweight  "Defense Special"
3972-B  Private car       1928       2  Heavyweight  (Ferdinand Magellan)

3973    10s-1c-1d         1926-29   45  Heavyweight  Milw, RI
3973-A  10s-1c-1d         1928-29   72  Heavyweight

3974    6sb-lng-obs       1926       2  Heavyweight  Milw
3974-A  6sb-lng-sun       1928       4  Heavyweight  C&NW
3974-D  6sb-2db-lng-sun   1934?      1  Heavyweight  reblt 3974-A, SP

3975    1c-1d-buf-lng-sun 1927       4  Heavyweight  UP
3975-B  2c-1d-buf-lng-sun 1927      12  Heavyweight  sent to Texas
3975-C  3c-2d-lng-sun     1928      20  Heavyweight  B&O, Fla trade
3975-D  3c-1d-buf-lng-sun 1929       7  Heavyweight
3975-K  3c-1d-buf-lng-sun 1949       4? Betterment   reblt 3975 PRR B&O
3975-T  3c-2d-lng-sun     1938       3  Betterment   reblt 3975-C, B&O

3976    6sb-lng-cafe      1926       2  Heavyweight
3976-D  6sb-lng-cafe      1929       2  Heavyweight

3979    8s-1d-2c          1926       8  Heavyweight  Milw
3979-A  8s-1d-2c          1928-30  242  Heavyweight
3979-?  8s-1d-2c          1940       2  Betterment   rebuilt 3979s

3980    14sb              1926      10  Heavyweight  
3980-A  14sb              1927-29   20  Heavyweight

3981    lng-dorm          1926      16  Heavyweight

3982    lng-buf-bbr-obs   1926       8  Heavyweight  "Olympian"

3983    30p               1927       1  Heavyweight  PRR

3984    24p-lng-sun       1927       2  Heavyweight  LV

3987    lng-buf-bbr-bag   1930       4  Heavyweight  "20th Century"

3988    1sb-1d-buf-lng-ob 1928-30   16  Heavyweight  NYC

3989    8s-buf-lng        1928      12  Heavyweight
3989-A  8s-buf-lng-sun    1929      19  Heavyweight  UP, SP
3989-B  8s-buf-lng-sun    1929      13  Heavyweight  
3989-K  8s-buf-lng-sun    1932       2  Heavyweight  reblt 3989-A
3989-U  8s-buf-lng-sun    1940       2  Heavyweight  reblt 3989 PRR

3990    lng-buf-bbr-sun   1929       8  Heavyweight  "Empire Builder"

3991    3sb-2c-1d-buf-sun 1929       3  Heavyweight  
3991-B  3sb-2c-1d-buf-sun 1929       2  Heavyweight  SP "Lark"

3992    13p-cafe-lng      1929       9  Heavyweight
3992-F  12p-cafe-lng      1940       ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 3992s
3992-G  12p-cafe-lng      1940       ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 3992s

3993    8s-5db            1929       4  Heavyweight

3994    6sb-buf-lng-sun   1929       4  Heavyweight  
3994-F  6sb-buf-lng       1939       2? Betterment   PRR

3995    4sb-2c-1d-lng     1929       4? Heavyweight  "Blackhawk"
3995-C  4sb-2c-1d-lng       ?        4  Heavyweight  CB&Q

3996    16p-buf-lng       1929       2  Heavyweight  C&EI
3996-A  16p-buf-lng         ?        ?  all subtypes are minor
3996-B  16p-buf-lng         ?        ?  reequipping variations
3996-C  16p-buf-lng         ?        ?       "          "

3997    13db              1929      10  Heavyweight
3997-A  13db              1930       5  Heavyweight

3999    20p-buf-lng       1929-30    4  Heavyweight  NH PRR

4000    30p-1d            1929-30   18  Heavyweight  NH C&NW

4001    34p               1929-30    6  Heavyweight  NH B&O 

4002    28p-1d-buf-lng-sun 1929-30  10  Heavyweight  PRR NH GN C&NW B&O
4002-A  28p-1d-buf-lng-sun 1930      2  Heavyweight  PRR

4003    8s-1d-4db         1929       2  Heavyweight  C&NW

4004    diner             1931-32    6  Heavyweight  

4005    8sb-lng           1929       2  Heavyweight  Frisco

4006    buf-lng           1930       2  Heavyweight  reblt 4004s
4006-B  buf-lng           1930-31    3  Heavyweight  reblt 16 sect cars

4009    24p-lng           1930       2  Heavyweight  w/14" fake platform
4009-B  24p-lng           1938       2  Heavyweight  reblt w/o platform

4010    6s-1d-lng         1930       4  Heavyweight  "Orange Blossom Sp"

4011-A  10p-lng-co        1930?      2  Heavyweight  PRR
4011-B  10p-buf-co        1931       1  Heavyweight  Erie reblt coach
4011-C  10p-buf-co        1932       2  Heavyweight  Erie reblt coach

4012    16p-cafe          1930       2  Heavyweight  PRR reblt 16 sect
4012-B  16p-cafe            ?        2  Heavyweight  PRR reequipped 4012

4015    6db-buf-lng       1932       2  Heavyweight  "Liberty Ltd"
4015-C  6db-buf-lng       1934       9  Heavyweight  reblt 2951s

4017    6s-rest           1930       7  Heavyweight  reblt 3986-Cs
4017-A  6s-rest             ?        ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 4017s

4018    rest-lng          1932       3  Heavyweight  C&O reblt 2412s

4019    rest-lng          1932      11  Heavyweight  PRR C&EI reblt 2416
4019-A  rest-lng          1932       7  Heavyweight  Pere Marquette
4019-B  rest-lng          1932       1  Heavyweight  PRR reblt 2416
4019-J  rest-lng            ?        1  Heavyweight  reequipped 4019

4020    8s-buf-lng        1930       2  Heavyweight  w/14" fake platform

4022    8s-4db            1933-39   28  Heavyweight  reblt various
4022-A  8s-4db              ?        ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 4022
4022-B  8s-4db              ?        ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 4022

4023    rest-lng          1932?      2  Heavyweight  reblt various

4024    8s-1d-buf-sun     1932       3  Heavyweight  reblt 2412s

4025    8s-rest-lng       1932-40   36  Heavyweight  reblt 2410s
4025-B  8s-rest-lng               cars  exact # of each type not known
4025-D  8s-rest-lng              total    "    "    "    "    "    "
4025-L  8s-rest-lng       1940       4  Betterment   B&O reblt 4025s

4026    10s-rest-lng      1932?      4  Heavyweight  CGW reblt 2410s

4027    10s-rest-lng      1932-40   14  Heavyweight  reblt 2410s
4027-B  10s-rest-lng        ?        ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 4027s

4029    16du sb           1933       2  Heavyweight

4030    8s-1d-buf-sun     1932       4  Heavyweight  C&O

4031    10s-1d-1c         1932       4  Heavyweight  C&O reblt 2410s

4032    12p-rest-lng      1933       4  Heavyweight  PRR

4033    12p-rest-sun      1933       1  Heavyweight  

4036    8s-5db            1930      15? Heavyweight  125 cars total of
4036-A  8s-5db            1934      60? Heavyweight  all types.  Exact
4036-B  8s-5db            1935      50? Heavyweight  numbers not known

4040    22p-buf-lng       1935?      2  Heavyweight  NH 
4040-A  22p-buf-lng         ?        1  Heavyweight  reequipped 4040

4042    10s-2db-1c        1930      35? Heavyweight  35 cars total. Exact
4042-A  10s-2db-ic        1930?     35? Heavyweight  numbers not known

4046    12s-2db           1930      13? Heavyweight  37 cars total.
4046-A  12s-2db           1930-36   12? Heavyweight  Exact number of each
4046-B  12s-2db           1930-36   12? Heavyweight  type not known.

4052    8s-rest-lng       1936       2  Heavyweight  Frisco  reblt 2410s
4052-C  8s-rest-lng         ?        ?  Heavyweight  reequipped 4052s

4056    10p-rest-lng      1936       2  Heavyweight  PRR

4060    6s-6db            1937      65? Heavyweight  Exact # not known.

4061    14s tourist       1940?     46? Heavyweight
4061-B  14s tourist       1940       7  Heavyweight
4061-C  14s tourist       1940      23? Heavyweight

4068-C  17rmt-1s          1937       1  Betterment   "49er"

4074    10s-1d-2db        1937       ?  Heavyweight  25 cars total of
4074-B  10s-1d-2db        1937       ?  Heavyweight  all types.  Exact
4074-E  10s-1d-2db        1937?      ?  Heavyweight  numbers not known.

4075    14p-lng           1937       3  Heavyweight  Wabash

4084    6s-6db            1937       6? Heavyweight  exact numbers of 
4084-A  6s-6db            1937      15? Heavyweight  4060 and 4084
4084-C  6s-6db            1937       5? Heavyweight  types not known

4087    10s-3db           1937       7  Betterment   KCS
4087-B  10s-3db             ?        ?  Betterment   reequipped 4087s

4090    8s-3db-1d         1937-?     ?  Heavyweight  64 cars total of
4090-A  8s-3db-1d         1937-?     ?  Heavyweight  all types.  Exact
4090-B  8s-3db-1d           ?        ?  Betterment   numbers/rebuilds
4090-D  8s-3db-1d           ?        ?  Betterment   not known.

4092    6-1-4db         1940       7  Heavyweight  Santa Fe, ex Peak and Point Pullman sleepers

4094    42 coach-sleeper  1940       4  Heavyweight
4094-A  42 coach-sleeper  1946?      4  Betterment

4157    12rmt-2sb-1db-1d  1948       4  Heavyweight
4157-A  12rmt-2sb-1db-1d  1950       4  Heavyweight  reequipped 4157s

4158    12rmt-2sb-3db     1948      26  Heavyweight

4172    12s-1sb-4db       1949-50   22  Heavyweight

4174    8s-6rmt-1db-1sb   1949       2  Heavyweight

4175    8s-6rmt-1db-1sb   1950       2  Heavyweight

4176    8s-3db-1d         1949       1  Heavyweight

4177    8s-22co           1949       3  Heavyweight  UP dorms in 1952

4178    6s-30co           1949       3  Heavyweight  UP dorms in 1952

4179    6s-4rmt-4db       1949-50   20  Heavyweight

7071    Private car        ?         8  Heavyweight?

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                              Updated 3/26/98

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